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So You Want A Rover?

Series Rover Purchase Guide



Before You Begin | General Guidelines | The Frame | The Firewall | The Engine
The Test Drive | The Extras | The Price

First, you should get a feel for the prices of Land Rovers through classified sections from various clubs or from Rover Parts Suppliers,such as British Pacific, Atlantic British and Rover's North.  These suppliers, for example, have a complete classified section in each of their newsletters, as well as bulletin boards on their websites. Each one also has a free catalog that can be a great resource while shopping around. Many owners think they have a rare and unique vehicle, when in fact, they really do not. Series Rovers are beginning to show up on ebay. Be wary of purchasing a Series Rover sight unseen. The ebay Rovers almost always go for more than they are worth.

My Rover One important thing to remember is that these are old vehicles. Finding someone to service one may not be that difficult, but finding someone who knows what they are doing is unlikely. Be prepared to learn how to maintain your own vehicle. It is not as bad as it may appear, and is often enjoyable if approached in the correct frame of mind. No known Land Rover dealerships in the U.S. still service Series vehicles, and the "Quicky Lube" guys won't even know how to get the oil filter off, much less have it in stock. So, be prepared to get your hands dirty. If you do plan on having someone else do the work for you, be sure the mechanic is trustworthy, knows what he is doing, and won't spend hours trying to understand how the pieces are put together. Series Rovers are basically simple vehicles, designed to be kept running with a minimum of tools, and just a little know how. Farmers and archeologists have been keeping them running for years, so can you! Whether you plan to do the work yourself, or allow someone else to do the work, you need to buy the manuals. At a minimum, buy the Haynes manual fromRover's North or Atlantic British. Preferably, buy the Genuine factory manuals which are two volumes, $110 from Rover's North or Atlantic British. They are the best investment a Rover owner can make. I also recommend MBX807 Click for full sizeLindsay Porter's Series I, II, IIA, and III: Do It Yourself Guide To Restoration and Purchase from Rover's North or Atlantic British. This book will be very useful to you while you are looking at different Land Rovers, and also if you decide to restore one.

I recommend you buy the tools to do a compression test or bring it to a mechanic to have one done for you. Many Land Rovers blow smoke and leak oil which may, or may not be an indication of blown piston rings. So, be sure to do the compression check and verify it for yourself.

Lastly, if this is your first Land Rover, be sure to contact some of the suppliers and ask them to send you a catalog. Surf the Rover Web, and The Rover Ring, and ask questions. The more familiar you are with this vehicle, the better off you will be as a potential buyer and new owner.

A Series Rover is different from any other vehicle you will ever own. It is unlike other 4X4's and unlike other British cars. It will cause changes in your lifestyle, and changes in the way others see you as well as the way you see yourself. It is not unusual for a driver of the most recent SUV to pull alongside and look at my Rover with absolute envy. A Series Rover is what the SUV pretenders of today try to imitate, and when they are side by side, there is little doubt which will go farther, deeper and longer into the bush.


Before You Begin | General Guidelines | The Frame | The Firewall | The Engine
The Test Drive | The Extras | The Price

Prices for Land Rovers will vary depending on the model, year, location, and obviously condition.  The following bullets should give you a rough idea as to which models and what locations cost more.

  • Long Wheel Base (LWB) will be more expensive than Short Wheel Base (SWB). In restoration as well as price.
  • Right Hand Drive (RHD) will be more expensive (in the U.S.) than will Left Hand Drive (LHD) Land Rovers.
  • Series 1
  • Rovers are more common in the Northeast and the far West. Therefore, you will find that prices are generally lower in those locations than in the rest of the U.S.
  • Series I Rovers are very hard to find, particularly ones in good condition. Parts for Series I's are also much harder to come by than later models. In general, Series I Rovers will carry a higher value, although finding one in good condition and worth the money is difficult.

  • My Series IIA Series II and IIA's are roughly equivalent. Both models are more practical than Series I's, but they are not as antique. They also lack some of the more modern features found in the Series III's. Many regard the Series IIA as the Classic Land Rover, as it has some of the more civilized touches to the interior not found in the Series II, yet it still holds the very rugged, classic "Rover" look. You reach the point of diminishing returns in terms of value when you cross over the 1969 year. Land Rovers became more common, production increased, and the body style lost some of the original classic "Rover" style when the headlights moved out to the wings from the grill, and plastic entered the interior to meet Government specs.
  • The Series III Land-Rover is most easily identified by the plastic radiator grille and by the headlights on the wings (late SIIA's also had headlights on the wings).Series III Inside, the metal parcel shelf was replaced with a "plastic one" and the gauges were moved to a position behind the steering wheel. There are other small refinements, new door and bonnet hinges for example. The main mechanical advancement was the introduction of synchromesh on all four forward gears. However the consequent gearbox alterations make the unit less robust than that in the Series IIA.

    There are a lot more Series III's on the road than there are II's and IIA's, which drives down the price of the Series III. Then again, Series III's are the most practical and comfortable to drive of the Series line.


Before You Begin | General Guidelines | The Frame | The Firewall | The Engine
The Test Drive | The Extras | The Price

Check the frame carefully for rust damage. The frame is a thin walled rectangular tubeRotten Front Crossmember shape, and is made of steel. It, along with the bulkhead, is the single, most important factor in determining a Series Rover's value. In some parts of the country, it is not uncommon to find a Land Rover in good condition with a badly rusted frame. Take a hammer and big screwdriver with you and firmly hit all crucial areas of the frame. If the frame dents, expect future problems, maybe sooner than later. A visual inspection is often inadequate, as the frame rusts from the inside out.

Rotten Frame At Spring MountAt the front of the vehicle, check behind the bumper (the spring hangers rust away), the shock absorber mounts, and then the area around each of the bump stops. Check the spring shackles to make sure they pivot with spring flexion. It is usually the rear bump stops that are the worst affected... water and mud go between the chassis and the top of the bump stop mounting plate.

Check the chassis outriggers. These are the pieces of frame extend out to the sides of the vehicle along the cab. SWB cars suffer from problems on the right hand side below the rear edge of the door. The close proximity of the fuel tank encourages a build up of mud, which rarely dries out. This is also a difficult area to repair, with the fuel tank and wiring loom going through the frame at this point. At the rear, your big problem is the back is the main chassis behind the spring hangers. This is a major repair job that is both difficult and time consuming. Rot in the rear cross-member is also common. This area is vital for any towing, and on a LWB repair or replacement is made more difficult as the fuel tank must be removed.

A Galvanized Frame, Click To See A Frame Up

Resale value of a car with a rusted out frame should be should be very low. However, new galvanized frames are available for around $1500-$2500 depending on the source and model. A frame swap is easier on a Rover than any other car, because you can unbolt the components and lift them away. If you are curious about the difficulty level, see the resto section of this site (click on the galvanized frame picture). If you do have time & inclination, & you stumble across a Land Rover in very good to excellent condition except for a rusted frame in the less than $1,500 range, you can add a new frame, get a great car, and save another Rover from an early demise.


Before You Begin | General Guidelines | The Frame | The Firewall | The Engine
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Rusty BulkheadThe firewall, or bulkhead as the brits call it, is painted steel. Check it carefully for rust. Repair panels are available, but the repair work is exacting. Figure repair costs into the value of the car. Check the bulkhead to chassis mounting points, the footwells and inner sides of the lower A-posts. Pull up any floor mats, carpet, or other covering. Eyeball closely any patching in the footwells, and poke around with that screwdriver! Water from the heater and from the front wheels can get kicked up and trapped there causing rapid deterioration. Footwell and A post replacement pieces are available and need to be welded in. Rusted Out Footwells Next, check the area at the base of the ventilation flaps. Water gets in here and rots the lower corners of the windscreen surround. Check the metal around the top door hinge on each side. Water gets into the door posts and the plate with the captive nuts holding the hinges rusts away, or the nuts seize and plate rips out. You should expect to find rust around the master cylinders. It is possible to repair great portions of the bulkhead, but the work is awkward, and requires quite a bit of disassembly to do right.

Oil on inside of wheels mean the inner oil seals are history and therefore so are the brakes (oil on the outside is a minor seal problem & doesn't affect the brakes.

Next look at the body above where the drive shaft mates to the differentials (front and back). If there is a lot of oil on the body, the pinion seal is toast and should be replaced before you accidentally run it out of oil.

There are two large swivel balls on the front axle. Inspect these joints carefully for pitting. A pitted swivel ball will leak oil away from the front wheel bearings and steering pivot points. The clean parts of these joints should be smooth, unpitted and rust free. Otherwise they need to be replaced. (actually some pitting is inevitable, but they should feel smooth to the touch.) These swivel balls are expensive & require the disassembly of the front end. If the swivel balls are badly pitted, subtract $1000 for repairs. Swivel Ball Excessive oil leaks could point to potential problems with a pair of top and bottom steering swivel pins and an ordinary Hardy Spicer-type universal joint. These run in a protective bath of EP90 gear oil, and though some oil loss is inevitable, excessive loss will lead to rapid wear of the swivel pins, and to a lesser extent, the universal joints. Dry seals probably mean that the housing is empty of oil. Steering swivel bushings can be checked for wear by jacking up the front of the vehicle (with no weight on the suspension) and attempting to move the tyre in and out sharply from the top. Some movement is acceptable, but if excessive could mean new swivel pins and universal joint overhauls.

Look at the drive flanges. If there are missing or broken bolts, it could mean that the threads are shot. The threads are very awkward to fix, so it can be another bargaining point. This is caused by owners over tightening the bolts, or forgetting to put anti-sieze compound on the bolts.

Wheel bearings are very large and robust, but the presence of aftermarket road wheels with different offsets could mean that the bearings could be in trouble.

Warn Free Wheeling Hub Freewheeling hubs can cause problems. Unless the freewheeling hubs are engaged at least 10 miles for every 50 driven, rapid wear can occur in the steering swivels. If the vehicle is habitually run in high two or four wheel drive, and the owner tends to keep the hubs locked, all should be well. Selecting low ratio in the transfer box for off-road automatically engages four wheel drive in order to split the torque and avoid overloading the rear axle. If the front hubs are disengaged, and low range is used, there is a danger of overloading the axle and damaging the rear half shaft, and possibly the main gearbox output shaft. In low range, the torque is meant to be split between the front and rear axles.

Note: Driving in four wheel drive on pavement can be damaging to the drive train. On pavement, the wheels cannot slip and adjust themselves, so you will "wind up" the drive train until it breaks. These are true four wheel drive vehicles. Plan on getting off road just so you can keep things lubed, if for no other reason!

Differentials are stong and robust units. Most problems occur in the differentials when they have been abused. (Note: the crowns and pinions are the same as in the Rover P6 saloon) The problem at the rear is halfshaft failure (Most frequently on Pre-1965 LWB and FC models.) Later Series models have a Salisbury axle (recognised by the squarer casing) and the halfshafts in these are said to be basically unbreakable. Converting between rear axles is possible if the drive shaft is shortened.

Expect the engine and gearbox to be leaking oil (The British never could seem to get the knack of oil seals). In fact if it's not leaking, it's probably empty! Just assume that you should check fluids frequently. A leaking rear seal on the gearbox can lead to the gearbox brake drum filling up, but this should affect its operation that much. It should be noted that the vehicle will rock forward and backwards with the gearbox brake engaged as the drive train takes up any slack.

All Land Rovers leak. You will never seal one up, either from water getting in, or oil getting out.

My Heater Unit Heaters are optional & different heaters may have been installed. Least desirable is the Smiths type with the cylindrical core. This is the same that comes in the TR3. The most desirable is called a Kodiak heater. It has a flat core in the firewall. This heater can quickly heat up a 109. Depending upon your location, add $100 to $200 for this heater. My heater pictured here is an "owner designed and installed" unit. I have no idea what it came out of, but it works well.

Older Land Rovers have two windshield wiper motors, each controlling one blade. They both should work. These motors are expensive. If the motor runs slowly, the grease inside is probably dried up. Regreasing one is an easy afternoon project, so a slow motor should not be a concern. However, I would deduct about $125 for a non functioning wiper motor.


Before You Begin | General Guidelines | The Frame | The Firewall | The Engine
The Test Drive | The Extras | The Price

2.25 PetrolThe engine should start easily and run extremely smoothly at 800 RPM.

Idle oil pressure should be 20 PSI or better. Running oil pressure should be around 50 PSI.

Pop the radiator cap and leave it off until the engine is warm. There should be no air bubbles (sign of leaky head gasket, or cracked head).

Let the car idle. Unlike other British cars that shall remain nameless, it should show no signs of overheating during a prolonged idle. Depress the clutch and listen for the whir of a worn throw out bearing. Listen carefully for any knocks, although it is not unusual to hear a tappety tap of a loose valve train. Valve adjustment is a staight forward proceedure.

Another View You can also check out the electrical system while the car is idling. Cars equipped with push pull switches may require the knob to be wiggled a bit to work. This switch has exposed contacts that get oxidized over time. They are easy to clean up.

Next, do a compression check, use a screw in type gauge. Disconnect the coil wire from the distributor. Record the compression readings as you measure each cylinder. If you get exactly the same readings from each cylinder, great, but unlikely. Usually there will be some variation eg: 147, 150, 142 and 151 lbs. However if three readings are close and one is 100 lbs lower than the other three, a tune-up is not going to help. The 2.25 engine will continue to run for a long time (although with power loss) with low compression. Roughly equal but low readings are preferable to having one low reading cylinder.


Before You Begin | General Guidelines | The Frame | The Firewall | The Engine
The Test Drive | The Extras | The Price

Test DriveWhen you drive a Land Rover, expect it to be noisy and mechanical feeling (no reason to have an expensive stereo here). Comparing a Series Rover to a modern 4X4 is like comparing a knucklehead Harley Davidson to a Kawasaki Ninja. Apples and oranges, so don't let that idea enter your head.

When you test drive the car use all gears as well as high and low range. It should be quietest in fourth gear. In a pre- Series III, DO NOT downshift below third gear while moving. There is no syncro there & the owner may be very unhappy if you were to take off a tooth or two. Be sure to try all 8 forward gear ratios and both reverse ratios. If it has an overdrive, that's 16 forward & 4 reverse! The transfer case should smoothly go into & out of 4 wheel drive.

Expect Series II transmissions to be louder in first, second and reverse gears since they are straight cut. Otherwise the transmission and transfer case should not be overly loud. "Pop" the accelerator pedal a couple of times in each gear to make sure the box does not jump out of gear.

When trying out the 4 wheel drive, make sure the front wheels are locked (all Rovers do not have locking hubs, as it was an option). Push down the yellow knob, Upsy Daisy in high range. Drive a bit in 4WD high range. Then try the low range. Low range is always 4WD with the hubs locked. The yellow knob should pop back up smartly when the transfer lever is put into low range. If it does not, the selector rods in the transfer case probably need polishing. DO NOT drive the vehicle in low range with the hubs unlocked, as maximum torque is transmitted to only one axle. The Rover is not designed to take this, and you may break something. Now, drive a bit in low range. If you turn the wheel while in 4WD and on dry pavement, expect to feel the steering wheel wobble a bit. This is normal under these conditions & does not happen on icy roads or off road. If you do not feel a wobble in the steering wheel while making a tight turn on dry pavement in 4WD, there is something wrong or you are not really in 4WD with the front hubs locked. Either take the vehicle off the road yourself, or have the owner do it. Problems may show up off road that are not apparent on a smooth surface. A dirt road is not sufficient. Expect the experience to be rather brutal and noisy, but the Rover should survive it easily.

The steering should be smooth and have little or no freeplay. There should be no strange vibrations in either 2 or 4 wheel drive. Steering on tarmac should be light and easy at & above 5 MPH, and if in top shape, nearly as good as rack and pinion. The design and number of ball joints will make it feel vague. Check the six balljoints, and if there is vertical motion, use this as a bargaining point to drop the price. They are not difficult to replace, and should run about $30 each.

Test Drive 2 Steering vagueness can be adjusted, but beware of your knuckles. A large lugnut needs to be released for the adjuster, and it takes a lot of torque. Adjustment can make a world of difference to the steering. The relay mechanism in the front cross member rarely gives any problem, but if it does, you face real problems. Much of this mechanism lies within the frame and it is not that uncommon to have to chop off that piece of the frame to get it out, and weld a new piece in before refitting it. Before tackling the relay, read a workshop manual. There is a large heavy spring inside, under load, that can be dangerous.

Be sure to check the normal things, such as brakes, steering tightness, etc. The "emergency brake" is a drivetrain mounted unit, designed to hold all 4 wheels on an incline. It should not be used while the vehicle is underway, except in a dire emergency. It should hold the vehicle on any incline that the tires can grip.

A Series Rover is the slowest 4x4 on the road, but it is seemingly indestructible, and built to be field stripped in a jungle with a swiss army knife. Owning and driving one is an experience that no other vehicle can produce.


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Tropical Top A tropical roof with air vents and upper windows is highly desirable. Add 2-3 hundred dollars to value. (This was standard on the 109 Station Wagon)

A canvas top is nice as an option, you will want the top off in warm weather, and the canvas is the easiest to put on if you expect a shower.

Add $800 for good condition overdrive. George Laird of Rovers Down South now owns the production tooling and rights to the Fairey overdrive. He is turning out new units on CNC equipment, as well as rebuilding used units. George has become the worldwide Fairey guru. Ray Wood of Wise Owl, in British Columbia, has developed the Roverdrive, an epicyclical gear unit which may also be found installed. The Santana (Toro) overdrives may be more difficult to locate parts for. An overdrive will make the Series Rover much more highway tolerant, while retaining off road ability. High speed transfer cases, on the other hand, take away from the off roading ability, with a permanent change in gear ratio.

Add $700 to $1000 for Positraction differentials. (Assuming you can even find one. 101 Forward Controls are more common than these diffs.) Air lockers are available, pay extra only if you want them (they are nice to have).

Newish door seals are worth an extra 2-3 hundred dollars (these are expensive and hard to put on).

Koenig PTO Winch Period winches such as the Koenig PTO or a Capstan can add value if they are complete. Be aware, however, that some of the parts are very hard to locate. Complete, operable period winches occasionally appear on ebay and go for $800-$900.

A galvanized frame generally means you will never have to worry about a frame. Add $1500. These are expensive, and laborious to install. If the frame is toast, as mine was, subtract at least $1500, the price of a new one.

Subtract $700 if car has LR six engine. Parts are hard to come by, and the design is not well done.

Subtract even more for a non-rover engine, unless it's a Perkins diesel.

Leaky engine/tranny seals should not affect price as this is normal (and it shows that the owner at least keeps lubricant in them!).

A set of Parabolic springs is great off-road. Add $500. If the springs are shot, you will sooner or later replace them. Subtract $300.

Not a Doormobile, but nice. From ebay Dormobile anything are worth more, but only if you want it.

Factory manuals are desirable, and the books can be had. Genuine workshop manuals run around $100, have two volumes, and they are all you need outside of tools.

Expect paint to be in bad condition and minor dents. Except for the rear quarters, body parts are easily replaced and are relatively inexpensive. Check the door frames for rust. These are mild steel as well, and rust from the inside out. The door tops should be complete and in good order. Use them as a bargaining chip if they are not!

You should get prices for all parts that need replacing and subtract those from asking price unless seller has already taken this into account.

Engine swaps such as the Chevy 6 and 4 are common. They do not increase value. If done poorly, they detract from the value. Be careful with the Chevy 6, as it tends to overheat in a Rover unless the installation compensates for location of cooling fan. Check it carefully for overheating.

Stay away from 8 cylinder swaps. They had to play some games to get it in there and value is way down. (Unless done via a kit from the UK and using the Rover 3.5l V8). The brakes should definitely be upgraded if a V8 lives under the hood. The Land Rover drive train is designed for the power output of a four cylinder engine. Radically increasing the power to the drivetrain can result in broken half-shafts and other problems.

A Redone Dash Most Series Rover instrument panels have been modified. If it looks authentic, it should not change the value. Subtract some value if it looks like an Auto Zone nightmare or like a Wood Working 101 project. The gauges are durable and should be working. They are expensive to replace.

The light lenses are easily obtained from a Rover parts supplier, and often interchange with other british cars of the same vintage. I salvaged some lenses from an Austin Healey!

Home built accessories and conversions such as roof racks, snorkels, electrical ground conversions, carburetor conversions, and alternator conversions are common. If they are well done, they should not decrease the value. Exceptional work that you want may even make that particular Rover worth more to you. Do not let the seller know this, obviously. Beware of Rube Goldberg type devices, and cobbled together work. A Rover is a very forgiving vehicle, but that does not mean you as a buyer should be!


Before You Begin | General Guidelines | The Frame | The Firewall | The Engine
The Test Drive
| The Extras | The Price

Since Land Rovers are not common, and have not been imported for a long time, many people have no idea what they are worth. Many sellers think that they are worth considerably more than they really are. So do non-owners. A Series Rover has a mystique unmatched by any vehicle other than a Harley Davidson.

Price will vary with location. Generally areas that saw a lot of Land Rovers will have lower prices. Land Rovers are concentrated in the British Columbia/US northwest and Ontario/ Quebec/US northeast. For the most part, Canadian Land Rovers are generally cheaper than their American counterparts because of the greater number of them in Canada.

Maggie, The $500 Rover. Click the picture to see her story. Word of advice: If you really, really want a Land Rover, it can be cheaper to fly first class to some place, buy a running, safety certified Rover, and drive it home than pay an outrageous price locally for a non-runner. Do your homework. If you can not get a distantly located Land Rover, but have an example nearby that may be over priced, or in poor condition, it may be worth your while to purchase it. It is your call...

Look for good condition runners that are essentially stock. If you look about you may find a fixer upper in a field for considerably less. Bargains can still be found in barns and pastures from people who have no idea what they are worth. Enjoy the search! I traded a '78 Suzuki GS1000 dead even for my first Rover. Everyone but the owner thought it was some strange postal jeep! He wanted it out of his sight, and needed a bike. Mint condition Rovers may command up to twice the price of a reliable daily driver. Ex-military Land Rovers command a higher price. You will pay the most through a Land Rover parts house.

Field of Dreams. Click the picture to see her story. Parts vehicles should run in the couple hundred dollar range or less, depending on location. Having a non-runner in the back 40 is a great asset, especially if you plan to use your Rover daily. Mail order parts service is good, and the right source can give great technical advice over the phone. There are some disreputable folks out there, so ask around, and look at links on different sites. The good ones appear again and again, and the technical support is often worth a slightly higher price for parts.

An estimated UK price would be about 1,500 pounds for a Series II with a MoT and several years of useful life left in it. LWB models tend to be cheaper over there, diesels more expensive. Rovers North recently brought over 15 MOD Series IIA Rovers, the last of the MOD SIIA's. They are going for $7000-$9000 apiece; the mileage is low, and the quality high.

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Good luck, and enjoy the search!
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